Danie Marais describes Tom Dreyer’s latest collection as “a re-enchantment of the world”. Valda Jansen writes that Herman Wasserman’s poems become his lifeline. In this conversation, Dreyer and Wasserman ask whether poetry, which sees differently from science and knows differently than the easy certainties of theology, is perhaps uniquely positioned to see and say something of the mystery, splendor, and “the sacred” of the world.